Those are better trajectory numbers than many .338 Win. Question. Learn More . Mag. Still a great cartridge, as is the .300 Weatherby. Any rifles already chambering for any of the fatter magnums like the RUMs, Dakotas, or .338 Lapua should be fit to fit the 27 Nosler. Read Next: Weird, Off-Beat, and Cool Guns and Gear from SHOT Show 2020. The 27 Nosler, like its counterparts across the family of Nosler cartridges, has raised the performance bar when it comes to the .277. Heres how it performed. Nearly every elk hunter will care somewhat about the weight of their rifle after a long day of hiking. Historians of guns and ammo credit OConnors writings for popularizing the little .270, which was and still is a bit of an oddball caliber. With yellow bodies and bright rumps, in open country they can be seen at vast distances, making them a classic long-range target. The old .270 Winchester has been hotly debated since 1925, yet it has been a favorite among thousands of elk pros. Jan 29, 2023 #1 need several 100 pieces of 27 nosler brass brand new in box . AccuBond Long Range or a comparable bullet with its high B.C. The answer is higher allowed chamber pressure. I do enjoy the videos and your enthusiasm in them. Less variety in factory loads on the market. 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. The classic was, is, and remains a lever-action chambered to something larger than .30-caliber. Finally, the puny 6.8 SPC from Remington appeared about 2004. In this article, Ill cover the pros and cons Ive found with shooting the .28 Nosler on my recent big game hunting adventures. I think a .30-06 with 180-grain bullet offers about the same performance as a 7mm Remington Magnum with 175-grain bullet. But if youre going to this narrow caliber, choose one with more velocity than the Creedmoor. of energy over the 270 Win and 600ft./lbs. Nov 7, 2022. And we dont mean the old .270 Winchester. Certainly no flies on the .270 but that would sway it to the 28 for me. The 225-grain load in an eight-pound rifle should generate about 40.8 ft-lb of recoil energy. And then what will barrel life be like? We use cookies to make your experience better. A 140- to 150-grain .264 driven to the same speeds as a .270 Win. but doesnt kick as hard. Google a 270 win - 280 rem comparison and it will tell you all you need to know. Fine options include the old .264 Win. Hunting elk is hard work. retains the title of best balanced elk caliber in it. For 2020, Nosler has chosen to take the venerable 270 caliber to a new level with the introduction of the all-new 27 Nosler. I am thinking of bullet weight and higher B.C. Are you concerned about barrel life? They dont start as fast but with better aerodynamics, theyll pass lighter slugs at mid-range, and hit way out there with more authority. Im not suggesting that elk rifles should be four times more powerful than deer rifles, but elk are tough. Cartridge means the case that holds the powder that drives the bullet. Mag. re: new 27 nosler vs 28 nosler Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:43 pm to kengel2. How long of a barrel are you willing to carry? Commissions are earned for links to Brownell's, Amazon, MidwayUSA, GoHunt, OpticsPlanet, Sportsman's Warehouse, and other retailers. Zeroed 3.3 inches high at 100 yards, that projectile will drop just two inches at 300 yards, deflect just five inches in a 10 mph right angle wind, and cling to 2,866 ft-lb energy. Quite a few elk have fallen from the 117hh in a wsm at . may have inspired Winchester to bring out its marvelous .300 magnum the very next year. At 800 yards the 28 Nosler carries just over 2000 ft lbs of energy. At 300 yards that bullet should still carry nearly 2,700 ft-lb energy, which is close to what a 180-grain .308 Winchester coughs up at the muzzle. Handloaders report optimum performance with a sleek, high B.C., 225-grain bullet pushed to an impressive 2,882 fps from a 24-inch barrel. Itll only hit 2,400 fps or so with a 225-grain bullet, so the 200- and 210-grain slugs might be the better choice. The .28 Nosler shoots flat and powerfully, but it is expensive to shoot, burns barrels quickly, and has significant recoil. Conceived as a 21st century upgrade, the 27 Nosler delivers previously unobtainable downrange ballistics by pairing the ultimate combination of case capacity with modern long-for-caliber bullets. But up close, you notice a custom upgrade that allows this piece of machinery to do [], Citing the critical importance of elk, deer and other big game migration corridors, winter range and other vital habit, the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation urged [], West Virginias elk herd continues to grow and biologists are doing the best they can to monitor the populations health, size, movements and habitat use. The 7 WSM and 7 SAUM just about match it in handier short action rifles. It will them be 3.0 inches high at 260 yards and 3.0 inches low at about 326 yards. Im not convinced this is a good thing. With these two cartridges coming on line, our .270 selection has just grown from four members to six: 6.8mm Remington SPC, .270 Winchester, .270 WSM, and .270 Wby. Follow along to see exactly how. This will be influenced significantly by the terrain youll hunt. 28 Nosler is essentially a shortened version of the 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum (7mm RUM). Petersen's HUNTING Publisher, Kevin Steele is in the CZ booth with Dylan Rice at SHOT Show to talk about CZ 600 Series Trail rifle. Magnum, 26 Nosler, and my choice for all-round balance in a short action rifle, the 6.5 PRC. However, you should be aware that the recoil on a .28 Nosler is not right for all shooters. And suddenly, in 2020, were getting two of them. 27 Nosler 145 Hornady ELD-X-How The 27 Nosler Outdoes Other .270s: Based on the .404 Jeffery, its case has exceptional capacity. Mag., .270 WSM, and 27 Nosler step it up a few notches, and the 6.8 Western with its fast twist barrels nudges bullet weights to the upper end of the 7mm line up. The two old wildebeest bulls weighed about 315 pounds each, and a mature bull elk weighs approximately 650 pounds. Kevin Steele of Petersen's HUNTING is at the Streamlight booth at SHOT Show 2023 to go over the Bear Trap light from Streamlight. The energy number does not matter. .284-inch bullet or a 180-gr. The rimless case uses a 35-degree shoulder for headspacing, and maintains a 2.590-inch case length and 3.340-inch cartridge overall length. Again, bullet weight. Mag. After years of the 6.5mm craze, we may be about to witness the .270 rising. Elk/Moose Sized Game; Weatherbys .300 magnum had been dazzling magnum fans since the mid 1940s, but it was a full-length magnum caliber available only in expensive custom or Weatherby Rifles. I also have a 28 Nosler and am very impressed with its performance. A natural question now is if other gun makers will chamber for the 27 Nosler and .277 SIG Fury. With this bullet, each elk dropped in it's tracks with only one shot, all between 100-350 yards away. With good form, a boat tail 225-grain .338 slug should rate a B.C. For general Big Game hunting, caliber and expected bullet performance is how I judge killing ability. The Nosler M48 Carbon Mountain Rifle is reviewed and taken to the range, where we shot and tested several handloads. Why I believe the actual on target energy is about the same as felt recoil. If recoil doesnt bother you, Id look hard at the .300 WSM, .325 WSM, even the new 6.8 Western, agonize over a 24-inch barrel, and probably compromise with a 23-inch barrel. My 28 Nosler launches the 162 Grain EL-DX's at 3,250 FPS. Publisher of Petersen's HUNTING magazine, Kevin Steele is at the Steiner Optics booth with Alberto Corbetta to discuss the Predator 4 and Predator 8. Nonsense. With a muzzle brake (included with the X-bolt Pro, the gun is quite tolerable. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. A high B.C. I tested the new cartridge at the bench in both the Nosler Model 21 and Nosler Model 48 rifles, and was pleased with the results; the 165-grain load averaged just under -MOA, and the 150-grain load just under one-MOA. They shoot flatter, kick less, and with the great modern bullets we have, they do the job! in the mid .4s to low .5s, good enough to provide maximum point blank range of 320 to 340 yards on a 10-inch target zone. Unless Sig Sauers new .277 SIG Fury is more your style. Can Coolers | An Official Journal Of The NRA, Find More Great NRA Publications Perfect For Every Interest, Discover Everything That The NRA Has To Offer. Believe it or not, with the right bullet, it can hang right with the .300 Win Mag without the recoil. The 28 Nosler, on the other hand, was introduced in 2015 and is known for its excellent accuracy and energy retention. Reno Nevada. Modern 6.5s, whether slow like the Creedmoor or fast like the PRC, are limited to 140-grain bullets, also light for elk-sized animals. Okay, maybe not a pallet, but a lot. The .28 Nosler is an ideal elk hunting cartridge for todays longer-range, flat-trajectory shooting style. I used a 7mm Rem Mag for years, great cartridge. Benefits of the .28 Nosler. The general consensus is that this old, belted magnum is the best caliber for elk hunting. This is a great site and I love the reviews but there are some inconsistencies. I usually shoot 168 grain Nosler ABLR 160 grain Nosler AB bullets. You, your kids, and 90 percent of the shooters might love the SIG Cross rifle, in which case the .277 SIG Fury might be your baby. Ive had unsuccessful elk hunts, but Ive never lost a bull, so my choices have worked for me. I have yet to see anyone do a comparison of the two cartridges, no doubt because the 27 Nosler is a very new option at this time. It hits harder than the .30/06 and even the old .300 H&H Magnum without as much recoil as the .338. The 27 Nosler shares the same caliber as the storied .270 Winchester and other .27 caliber rifles. I can wait to get it back. Kevin Steele stops by the Taurus booth to speak with Cody Osborn about the all new Raging Hunter platform from Taurus International. buried one Winchester magnum and created another. Mag. It will work but a little much. Winchesters original loadings included a 200-grain bullet rated 3,000 fps, a 250-grain at 2,700 fps, and a heavy 300-grain at 2,450 fps from 24-inch barrels. Its been one of the best selling, popular all-round hunting cartridges in the U.S. Much of its appeal is reasonable recoil, fairly significant muzzle velocity in the 3,000 fps range, mid-sized bullet weights found to be ideal for taking deer-sized game and good enough for some larger stuff with good design and placement.